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Poster: craven714 Date: Dec 21, 2011 10:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Any Tips for Bluegrass on the Archives?

I hope your not on the East end. Thats some ugly stuff up
there. Im just wasting a few years down here in the
capitol city (just East). Of all the places I have lived
in the U.S., Columbus has to be one of the worst.
Everyone is so self-centered and rude. Maybe the crappy
weather has an effect on everyone. I donno. But
Im glad you are having safe and (hopefully) happy travels!
Enjoy those fast download speeds, and the company of
family of course :)
Oh, and a second the Greensky Bluegrass rec. That Mando
is the man.
Happy Halloween!!!

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Dec 22, 2011 2:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Don't Diss the East Side! :-)

Well, there's a difference between the East Side in general and literally the East side of the actual city of Cleveland, which is essentially a deserted zone -- as all of "Cleveland proper" is, basically, with maybe a few scrappy, scruffy, and arty-and-student-y neighborhoods hanging on stubbornly to their hard-earned version of Cleveland-ness.

All in all, the East Side has the only old "hippie hood," plus I grew up on the East Side of the traditional Cleveland East-vs-West rivalry ... sorry, any Parma-ites out there stringin' Christmas lights on your pink flamingoes :-) So, gotta stick up for the good ol' East Side. It's not ALL like what you see in these videos. Though, well, most of it is ...

I'm speaking, of course, of these highly accurate documentary presentations:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysmLA5TqbIY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM&;feature=related



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Poster: TOOTMO Date: Dec 23, 2011 12:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Don't Diss the East Side! :-)

"...the actual city of Cleveland, which is essentially a deserted zone..."

I believe it is part of Cthullu's wrath for what the RnR HoF has done (or, rather "not done") to RUSH.

Enjoy,

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1981-03-03.sbd.digitalrbb.miller.112777.flac16

(Interesting mix on Big RxR.)
Judge TOOTMO

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Dec 23, 2011 1:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Don't Diss the East Side! :-)

I did :-)

I was at that show, many many moons ago. It's one of a handful of candidate shows for my famous (to me) "Jerry smiled at me" moment. The shows then, at least in the Midwest, weren't at terribly big venues -- not tiny, but you could see the band and get good seats and often move up close -- and at one show before Phil and Jerry switched sides I was up front in the aisle, dancing and watching Jerry -- and then... hang on for the excitement folks ... he smiled and nodded! Right at me! In a highly Jerry-ish manner! So, there ya go. I'll take credit for being the inspiration for any fine musical moments you choose.

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Poster: TOOTMO Date: Dec 23, 2011 1:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Don't Diss the East Side! :-)

I'm at Drums right now and I have to say it is a beauuuutiful recording and a really good show: IKYR and He's Gone, especially. (Not a big Black Peter fan and definitely NOT a Good Lovin fan so I may have to hop off here.)

Never saw a show where I was close enough to tell if I was close enough for Jerry to give me a nod but I did stop to eat on the way back from Virginia earlier this week and a guy in the parking lot nodded at my stealie shirt and the manager said I looked like Phil, circa late '80s.

Travel safely back to the Kat.

Judge TOOTMO

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Poster: craven714 Date: Dec 23, 2011 5:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Don't Diss the East Side! :-)

Oh AR, no disrespect intended. I have been looking for a way to remove my foot from my mouth all day. Even http://www.drscholls.com can't help.

It was an undereducated, generalization on my part. I meant no DIS. My sincere apology if you were offended.

I almost peed myself laughing at those vids you posted. Its so funny cuz its true.

I know Clevelanders are very proud people, as they should. I hope you didnt take my stupid statement any wrong way.

This was on 60 minutes last week ~just rediculous~ I would love to hear your take on it
considering what your day to day life must be where you live. Can you imagine?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57344513/there-goes-the-neighborhood/

I just want to put that out there. I will respond more if needed. I apparently have said too much
already (like an idiot)....so Im just gonna shut up now.

Peace to you and have good travels!



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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Dec 24, 2011 4:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Don't Diss the East Side! :-)

Day-to-day life where I live? Hmmm. Well, this was taken walking distance from my house:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei5ENajmDQI

I haven't actually lived in Cleveland since the late '80s. Just visiting for Xmas. But gosh, I wasn't offended at all ... just having fun with my knee-jerk East-vs-West Side thing. (It's a Cleveland thing. The West Side has the pink flamingos on the lawn. The East Side has the orchestra. Let's see if that will flush out any West Siders :-) )

Part of those videos I posted before was used by Michael Moore in Capitalism: A Love Story, and when it came on the screen, my husband and I just about fell out of our seats laughing ... definitely very true!

My take on the CNN episode ... The place they show looks to me like it's a pretty typical inner-city neighborhood. It's just one of those places that was blue-collar 50 years ago and has been poor and getting poorer ever since. Abandoned houses aren’t anything new there, either. The city per se is fairly small (the suburbs aren't incorporated in it) and has looked like a ghost town pretty much of all of my life.

However, I will say that if you've got a good job here, there are an awful lot of houses on the market in really nice neighborhoods. I suppose that's partly the current economy, but it's also just a reality of the Rust Belt. But hey ... at least it's not Detroit! :-)